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You know the feeling—you’ve just had an incredible coffee chat with a prospective client. They loved your energy, called you inspiring and you walked away thinking, “This could be something amazing.” But then… nothing. Radio silence. Another lovely conversation that leads absolutely nowhere whilst your calendar stays frustratingly empty. In this episode, we’re tackling the uncomfortable truth: you’re probably brilliant at building connections but not quite as good at converting them.
The problem isn’t that people don’t value you—it’s that you never invite them to go deeper. They’re actually waiting for you to show them how. I share the story of a client who was having amazing conversations but freezing at the critical moment of transition. Once she shifted from fear of appearing salesy to simply extending a gracious invitation, she gained two new clients within a week. What you need isn’t more connections; it’s conversion.
I’m sharing five practical strategies for moving into a more human-to-human sales approach that feels authentic, beautiful and even fun. We’ll explore how to be crystal clear about your value, lead with curiosity over pitching, create inviting opportunities, follow up with grace and show up as your true self. I like to think of it as finding someone who wants to dance with me—not selling, but seeing if we’re meant to move together. Because at the end of the day, it’s the cash in your bank that pays the bills and keeps your business in business.
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Hello, and welcome
Janine:to another episode of
Janine:Unleashing Brilliance.
Janine:Wonderful to have you
Janine:here again this week.
Janine:And this week.
Janine:I wanna talk about something
Janine:that so many brilliant women
Janine:struggle with, and that is
Janine:how do you turn
Janine:great conversations
Janine:into paying clients?
Janine:Without feeling like a
Janine:pushy salesperson from
Janine:a nineties infomercial.
Janine:You know what I'm
Janine:talking about here?
Janine:You know, you've done the
Janine:work, you've built the
Janine:connections, you've shown
Janine:up with heart and value
Janine:and generosity, but when
Janine:it comes to asking someone
Janine:to actually work with you.
Janine:You freeze.
Janine:You second guess yourself.
Janine:You worry you are going to
Janine:sound desperate or awkward,
Janine:or God forbid, salesy.
Janine:So what happens, what I
Janine:see is people pull back.
Janine:You might get vague,
Janine:you leave money on the
Janine:table, and you leave your
Janine:impact on the table too.
Janine:Well, not anymore because
Janine:in today's episode I want to
Janine:share with you how to turn
Janine:connections that you already
Janine:have into paying clients with
Janine:zero scripts and zero cringe.
Janine:Just clarity, courage and
Janine:conversations that convert.
Janine:So let's just start.
Janine:Reflecting on the term sales
Janine:for a second, shall we?
Janine:There is no doubt in my mind
Janine:that selling has gotten a
Janine:bad rap, because let's be
Janine:honest with each other.
Janine:Most of us have experienced
Janine:it at its worst.
Janine:You know, the vibe,
Janine:someone you haven't heard
Janine:from four years slides
Janine:into those dms like, Hey
Janine:babe, love your energy.
Janine:Have you ever.
Janine:Starting a podcast.
Janine:Have you ever thought
Janine:about writing a book?
Janine:It's like, eh,
Janine:vomit in my mouth.
Janine:Delete, block, run.
Janine:So it's no wonder that
Janine:we swing so hard in
Janine:the opposite direction.
Janine:We don't wanna be
Janine:that person, do we?
Janine:And so what ends up happening
Janine:is we end up saying nothing.
Janine:We wait.
Janine:We wait.
Janine:We wait and we just hope,
Janine:keep our fingers crossed.
Janine:We hope that people will
Janine:just know that our doors are
Janine:open for business and that
Janine:we're available for work.
Janine:We give, we give and we
Janine:give, and then we feel
Janine:resentful when people don't
Janine:magically offer to payers.
Janine:I wanna say this, once again,
Janine:I've said it multiple times
Janine:on this podcast before.
Janine:Hope is not a strategy.
Janine:And your brilliance
Janine:deserves to be paid.
Janine:I had a client,
Janine:recently, and she came
Janine:to me totally deflated.
Janine:She said something like this.
Janine:It was like, Hey, Janine,
Janine:I've been having these
Janine:really amazing coffee chats.
Janine:Everyone says, oh, wow.
Janine:I love your energy, or,
Janine:you are so inspiring.
Janine:But here's the thing,
Janine:Janine, nothing ever
Janine:comes from it, and it's
Janine:getting really frustrating.
Janine:The impact of nothing
Janine:coming from it was, it
Janine:was negatively, in fact,
Janine:impacting her sales numbers.
Janine:It was negatively
Janine:impacting her delivery.
Janine:Her calendar was looking
Janine:almost empty, actually.
Janine:And so what we did is we
Janine:unpacked it, and guess what?
Janine:We found this person,
Janine:this client, I'm trying
Janine:hard not to say her name.
Janine:She was incredible, right?
Janine:She was incredible
Janine:in the conversation.
Janine:Curious, generous,
Janine:really great listener.
Janine:But when it came to the moment
Janine:of transition, that moment
Janine:where you invite someone
Janine:to take the next step, she
Janine:absolutely froze because she
Janine:didn't want to be salesy.
Janine:But here's what I said to her.
Janine:The problem isn't that
Janine:people don't value you
Janine:it's that you never
Janine:invite them to go deeper.
Janine:They don't know how
Janine:they're waiting for you.
Janine:Within a week of changing
Janine:that one thing, this
Janine:particular client closed
Janine:two new clients for herself.
Janine:No pressure, no pitch,
Janine:no crazy long pitch deck,
Janine:just a shift in her energy
Janine:and a simple invitation.
Janine:You see, connection
Janine:isn't enough.
Janine:What you need is conversion.
Janine:At the end of the day, it's
Janine:the cash in your bank that
Janine:pays the bills, that keeps
Janine:your business in business.
Janine:And I wanna say,
Janine:again, being connected.
Janine:Doesn't mean
Janine:being in business.
Janine:Yes, relationships matter.
Janine:I talk about it all the time.
Janine:I talk about it in my book.
Janine:It's who you know.
Janine:I talk about it in my
Janine:book, be Brilliant.
Janine:Relationships matter deeply.
Janine:Absolutely.
Janine:Yes.
Janine:Being of service is key,
Janine:but relationships that
Janine:don't go anywhere well,
Janine:they cost you time.
Janine:And they cost you
Janine:energy and they cost you
Janine:your ability to scale.
Janine:What we need is a bridge
Janine:between value and conversion,
Janine:and here's the good news.
Janine:That bridge doesn't
Janine:have to be awkward.
Janine:In fact, I think it
Janine:can be authentic.
Janine:I think it can be beautiful.
Janine:I even think it can be fun.
Janine:I actually to say, when
Janine:I'm sharing this with my
Janine:own clients, I go, I'm
Janine:actually looking to see if.
Janine:people wanna dance with me.
Janine:I'm looking for that
Janine:dancing partner.
Janine:I've totally changed the
Janine:word in my head from selling
Janine:to, "I'm looking to see if
Janine:we're gonna dance together."
Janine:Beautiful and fun.
Janine:I wanna share with you, five
Janine:ideas of how to actually move.
Janine:Into this more human to
Janine:human sales approach.
Janine:so the first idea I've
Janine:got, so the first thing I
Janine:want you to think about is
Janine:being crystal clear about
Janine:what it is that you do.
Janine:Now, this is where so
Janine:many of you fall down.
Janine:You are brilliant, but
Janine:you are messaging, it's
Janine:a little bit fuzzy, you
Janine:know, empowering women to
Janine:step into their purpose.
Janine:It's not a value proposition,
Janine:it's, that's actually more
Janine:of an Instagram affirmation.
Janine:Say what you actually do and
Janine:who you do it for, and also
Janine:share what the outcome is
Janine:that you help them to create.
Janine:For example, I don't know, um,
Janine:"I help female consultants
Janine:turn their IP into high
Janine:ticket offers and land
Janine:clients without burning out.
Janine:Be more specific.
Janine:Own it.
Janine:Say it proudly, because
Janine:this is what makes it
Janine:easy for others to refer,
Janine:recommend, and hire you.
Janine:So that's step number one.
Janine:Second thing I want you
Janine:to think about, lead with
Janine:curiosity, not pitching.
Janine:Instead of feeling like
Janine:you have to sell, what
Janine:about getting curious?
Janine:Ask real questions.
Janine:Dig beneath the surface.
Janine:What are they
Janine:really stuck with?
Janine:What is keeping
Janine:them awake at night?
Janine:What are they already
Janine:trying that isn't working?
Janine:Listen, get curious about
Janine:where they're heading to,
Janine:what their dreams are and what
Janine:they themselves say are the
Janine:roadblocks or the problems,
Janine:and then you go, would it be
Janine:helpful if I shared how I've
Janine:helped someone in a similar
Janine:position navigate that?
Janine:would it be helpful
Janine:if I shared with you
Janine:some of the things that
Janine:other clients are doing?
Janine:You are not pushing.
Janine:You are offering insight,
Janine:and that's really powerful.
Janine:It's generous and it's the
Janine:very thing that creates trust.
Janine:Third thought is make
Janine:your work inviting.
Janine:Not intimidating, nobody wants
Janine:to be sold to, but everyone
Janine:loves to be invited into
Janine:something that feels exciting,
Janine:clear and purposeful.
Janine:So try this.
Janine:You know, maybe you say.
Janine:Does this sound like
Janine:there's some alignment here?
Janine:would it be worth exploring
Janine:how we could work together?
Janine:Are you curious at all
Janine:about how I can help?
Janine:Would you like to hear what
Janine:working with me looks like?
Janine:Like keep it really
Janine:beautiful and relaxed
Janine:versus hardcore salesy?
Janine:Remember, we are
Janine:looking for people that
Janine:we wanna dance with.
Janine:Do you see the tone?
Janine:It's light.
Janine:You are not pitching,
Janine:you are actually
Janine:creating an invitation.
Janine:You are opening the door.
Janine:Fourth idea, follow up like
Janine:a pro and not a pest, is
Janine:you sent the proposal right?
Janine:They asked you to,
Janine:you sent the proposal.
Janine:I don't know what happens.
Janine:We hear crickets and
Janine:most of us go, now what?
Janine:Most people either disappear
Janine:entirely or follow up with
Janine:a weird, I'm just circling
Janine:back, or I'm just bringing
Janine:this to the top of your inbox.
Janine:One of those email that
Janine:makes them feel awkward
Janine:and you feel ignored.
Janine:here's what I teach instead.
Janine:I'd say something
Janine:like, Hey Sarah.
Janine:Hey, I just wanted to check
Janine:in on the proposal I sent.
Janine:No pressure at all.
Janine:just wanna make sure it didn't
Janine:slip through the cracks.
Janine:It's what you
Janine:were looking for.
Janine:Let me know if you have
Janine:any further questions or
Janine:you wanna walk through it.
Janine:I'd love to hear if it's
Janine:a yes, not yet, or I need
Janine:some more information,
Janine:just let me know.
Janine:I keep it really cheerful,
Janine:really relaxed, versus
Janine:I'm bringing this to
Janine:the top of your inbox
Janine:in case you missed it.
Janine:No, we wanna be respectful,
Janine:we wanna be professional,
Janine:we wanna be human.
Janine:And the fifth thing is to
Janine:keep showing up as you.
Janine:The best business is built
Janine:on real relationships.
Janine:Be that same person on
Janine:a Zoom call as you are
Janine:at a coffee catch up.
Janine:Let people see you.
Janine:Let them feel your fire
Janine:because they're gonna buy
Janine:your energy, confidence,
Janine:clarity, conviction.
Janine:You don't need to be polished.
Janine:You just need to be, you
Janine:turned up all the way.
Janine:Right now, trust
Janine:is the currency.
Janine:People everywhere
Janine:are so overwhelmed.
Janine:They're over pitched.
Janine:They're oversold to, but
Janine:they're still investing in
Janine:people that they believe
Janine:in, in solutions that they.
Janine:Trust in leaders like you
Janine:who show up like pros,
Janine:not like panic merchants.
Janine:So if you are relying on
Janine:hope, on freebies, on sliding
Janine:sideways into inboxes,
Janine:hoping that someone bites,
Janine:I'm gonna lovingly say this.
Janine:It's time to stop hiding.
Janine:It is time to start owning
Janine:your expertise and lead
Janine:people forward, not from
Janine:pressure, but from presence,
Janine:because that's the energy
Janine:people are drawn to.
Janine:That's what turns
Janine:just a connection
Janine:into a paying client.
Janine:That's what creates real
Janine:commercial traction,
Janine:not noise, not hustle.
Janine:Just clear confident
Janine:leadership.
Janine:So here's this week's
Janine:challenge, my friends,
Janine:I want you to go
Janine:through your network.
Janine:I want you to look at your
Janine:past clients, those warm
Janine:leads, even those amazing
Janine:coffee catchups that had
Janine:you months ago that you,
Janine:talked to, and you had
Janine:that awesome conversation.
Janine:Go back through them all
Janine:and ask yourself, "where
Janine:have I not invited someone
Janine:to take the next step?"
Janine:Reach out, reconnect, not
Janine:with a pitch, with presence.
Janine:And if you're ready to dial
Janine:this in, to turn your network
Janine:into a client generating
Janine:ecosystem, reach out to me,
Janine:DM me book in a call with me.
Janine:Because you don't
Janine:have to do this alone.
Janine:I can absolutely show you
Janine:the very systems I use to
Janine:turn everything that I've
Janine:shared in today's podcast.
Janine:Into reality.
Janine:And if this episode gave
Janine:you nudge, or a reframe or
Janine:a kick in the butt, please
Janine:share it with friends.
Janine:Leave a comment.
Janine:Let me know.
Janine:Let me know because this
Janine:is the only way we're
Janine:gonna spread this kind of
Janine:information through the
Janine:ecosystem that is podcast.
Janine:Until next week, please
Janine:keep showing up and keep
Janine:leading and keep leasing
Janine:that brilliance of yours.
Janine:I look forward to catching
Janine:up with you next week.
